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		<title>By: nursej</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-344</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There will be no compromise from me for people who express opinions similar to Mike Woodman.
&quot;Somehow, the presence of people willing to work for dirt cheap wages in our country doesn&#039;t seem like a big deal to me.&quot;
That&#039;s the opinion of both those  profiting from illegal labor and those who are shallow thinkers.
Mike also thinks we should work on &quot;energy, the environment, education, health care, a world confronted with dwindling resources and increasing population&quot;.
The fact is, you can&#039;t affectively address ANY of those problems until illegal immigration is addressed.
Perhaps Mike should also should look at who won - and who got trounced -  in LD30 during this past election.
I will neither cast a vote nor contribute a penny to any Republican who does not actively work to secure our borders.
I did not vote for McCain. I will not vote for McCain if he runs again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be no compromise from me for people who express opinions similar to Mike Woodman.<br />
&#8220;Somehow, the presence of people willing to work for dirt cheap wages in our country doesn&#8217;t seem like a big deal to me.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s the opinion of both those  profiting from illegal labor and those who are shallow thinkers.<br />
Mike also thinks we should work on &#8220;energy, the environment, education, health care, a world confronted with dwindling resources and increasing population&#8221;.<br />
The fact is, you can&#8217;t affectively address ANY of those problems until illegal immigration is addressed.<br />
Perhaps Mike should also should look at who won &#8211; and who got trounced &#8211;  in LD30 during this past election.<br />
I will neither cast a vote nor contribute a penny to any Republican who does not actively work to secure our borders.<br />
I did not vote for McCain. I will not vote for McCain if he runs again.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Woodman</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Woodman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you haven&#039;t noticed, there seem to be a lot more pressing issues facing our country.  A very serious economic crisis, two wars that are stalemates at best and more likely lost causes without good solutions, energy, the environment, education, health care, a world confronted with dwindling resources and increasing population.  Somehow, the presence of people willing to work for dirt cheap wages in our country doesn&#039;t seem like a big deal to me.
It may have escaped your notice, but the  immigration issue was a loser for the Republican party in both 2006 and 2008.  The immigrant bashers mostly lost--JD Hayworth and whoever that was who lost CD 8 to Gabrielle Giffords here in Arizona.  It was a loser of an issue in the Republican primaries this past year.  Tom Tancredo answered every single question he was ever asked with a spew of immigrant hatred.  Never got over the one percent line, either.  Giuliani and Romney spent an entire debate trying to prove who was tougher on the immigrant issue.  Both were out of the race three weeks later.  The last two Republicans left standing in the race were McCain and Huckabee, the two with the most reasonable and compassionate stands on immigration.  Why do you still want to keep this issue alive?
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Munsil that toning down the hateful rhetoric is a good idea.  I think a better idea would be to drop the issue entirely.  It&#039;s only costing the Republican party votes, something they&#039;ve been lacking in the last two elections.  Obama won two thirds of the Hispanic vote, along with two thirds of young voters and 95 percent of African Americans.  If the Republican party ever wants to run this country again, they&#039;d better begin to address this.
Drop the issue.  If the Obama administration succeeds at even half his agenda, he&#039;ll have the political capital to pass an immigration reform bill, including a pathway to citizenship.  If you want to keep screaming bloody murder about it, you&#039;ll just further damage your own cause.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, there seem to be a lot more pressing issues facing our country.  A very serious economic crisis, two wars that are stalemates at best and more likely lost causes without good solutions, energy, the environment, education, health care, a world confronted with dwindling resources and increasing population.  Somehow, the presence of people willing to work for dirt cheap wages in our country doesn&#8217;t seem like a big deal to me.<br />
It may have escaped your notice, but the  immigration issue was a loser for the Republican party in both 2006 and 2008.  The immigrant bashers mostly lost&#8211;JD Hayworth and whoever that was who lost CD 8 to Gabrielle Giffords here in Arizona.  It was a loser of an issue in the Republican primaries this past year.  Tom Tancredo answered every single question he was ever asked with a spew of immigrant hatred.  Never got over the one percent line, either.  Giuliani and Romney spent an entire debate trying to prove who was tougher on the immigrant issue.  Both were out of the race three weeks later.  The last two Republicans left standing in the race were McCain and Huckabee, the two with the most reasonable and compassionate stands on immigration.  Why do you still want to keep this issue alive?<br />
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Munsil that toning down the hateful rhetoric is a good idea.  I think a better idea would be to drop the issue entirely.  It&#8217;s only costing the Republican party votes, something they&#8217;ve been lacking in the last two elections.  Obama won two thirds of the Hispanic vote, along with two thirds of young voters and 95 percent of African Americans.  If the Republican party ever wants to run this country again, they&#8217;d better begin to address this.<br />
Drop the issue.  If the Obama administration succeeds at even half his agenda, he&#8217;ll have the political capital to pass an immigration reform bill, including a pathway to citizenship.  If you want to keep screaming bloody murder about it, you&#8217;ll just further damage your own cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-342</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Len for saying this.
I spent part of my career hearing the inside strategy of liberal immigration lawyers and one of their best tools is DELAY.
Bureaucracy caused delay, congressional gridlock, underfunded and overtasked law enforcement agencies --they all result in a broken system which benefits liberal philosophical beliefs regarding the issue of immigration.
What some in our party cannot see is that they are actually losing ground due to their rhetoric and at the same time alienating voters who have legally immigrated and are now citizens.  These voters agree with a big chunk of the Republican platform, especially the socially conservative portions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Len for saying this.<br />
I spent part of my career hearing the inside strategy of liberal immigration lawyers and one of their best tools is DELAY.<br />
Bureaucracy caused delay, congressional gridlock, underfunded and overtasked law enforcement agencies &#8211;they all result in a broken system which benefits liberal philosophical beliefs regarding the issue of immigration.<br />
What some in our party cannot see is that they are actually losing ground due to their rhetoric and at the same time alienating voters who have legally immigrated and are now citizens.  These voters agree with a big chunk of the Republican platform, especially the socially conservative portions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Len, thanks so much for bringing up the issue of the tone of the immigration debate. It definitely needs to benefit from more light and suffer from less heat. We would benefit from having more dispassionate discourse regarding solutions beyond sealing our southern border (e.g., re: northern border, overstays, CIS bureaucracy, etc.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len, thanks so much for bringing up the issue of the tone of the immigration debate. It definitely needs to benefit from more light and suffer from less heat. We would benefit from having more dispassionate discourse regarding solutions beyond sealing our southern border (e.g., re: northern border, overstays, CIS bureaucracy, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Debi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad someone has said this!  All the squabbling and name calling has been making me crazy. This was very well said and I hope the people who need to hear it most will listen!!
Thank you!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone has said this!  All the squabbling and name calling has been making me crazy. This was very well said and I hope the people who need to hear it most will listen!!<br />
Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Jill</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hey Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, Len!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Len!</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Owens</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Owens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EXCELLENT!  Thank you for the right on words but more so for your courage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT!  Thank you for the right on words but more so for your courage.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-337</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Blog, Len - one of your best..
thank you
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Blog, Len &#8211; one of your best..<br />
thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Tod</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well stated!
I completely agree ... I&#039;m glad that somebody could state it so well.
Hopefully it will be heard, absorbed and taken to heart.
Thank You!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated!<br />
I completely agree &#8230; I&#8217;m glad that somebody could state it so well.<br />
Hopefully it will be heard, absorbed and taken to heart.<br />
Thank You!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Fisher</title>
		<link>http://lenmunsil.com/2009/01/the-proof-is-in-the-pardon/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Fisher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thoughts, Len.  But to &quot;...cause Republicans to again unite around our many common principles...&quot; prompts a suggestion.  We should unite not only around our common principles, but also around a principled leader.  Maybe you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, Len.  But to &#8220;&#8230;cause Republicans to again unite around our many common principles&#8230;&#8221; prompts a suggestion.  We should unite not only around our common principles, but also around a principled leader.  Maybe you?</p>
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